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Episode 94 - Dr Sue Roberts

Released: Wednesday 26th October 2011

On this weeks show there is an inspiring runner story, listeners 'fess up' to their biggest race confessions and we bring you news of some amazing age related running from the Toronto marathon. There is a double helping of listeners top 5 marathons and rate your run. Plus of course, rant and rave, a winner of the week, Tony talks about what he is up to next (NOT Chester) and there is an interview with Dr Sue Roberts all about overtraining.

 

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Show Notes

00:00 - Intro

- Tom's been chilling with his girls, pacing his mate round Leeds parkrun, and potholing!  

- Martin's been winning, doing his longest run since comrades with Steve Way ‘effortlessly bouncing along’ and trying to recover ever since.

We’ve always said that everything we provide at Marathon talk will be free for everyone who wants to be a part of our community. We’d like to thank adidas for their support in helping us grow this community and bring Marathon Talk to you each week.

adidas have 6 places in next years VLM up for grabs! (plus free footwear – and a miCoach pacer) You have to answer a few simple questions before 6th November and could win a place in one of the greatest marathons on the planet. Enter here

- Inspiring email from runner Ben Powell

- Steve Cairns was definately 3rd! So says Steve Cram.  (link)

- Friday Facebook 'Confession time'.  Daz Reevell How could you!  Plus 'the amazing Fauja Singh.

-  Great video of the Boston Finish line posted on facebook by Greg Richardson (link)

16:18 - News

- Terrible news from South Africa. South African runners killed by drunk driver (link)

- Lizzie Hawker abandons her attempt at the Great Himalayan Trail 1,000 mile run  (link)

- Amsterdam Marathon review - 6 men go sub 2:07

- Toronto Waterfront Marathon. African winners but a great run from Canadian Reid Coolsaet    (Reids Blog)

- The golden oldies show us all how it's done.

36:24 - Tony's Trials

Tony finds another race - pumpkin fun.

42:00 - Rant and Rave

Jim Branton rants about race feedback that really isn't.

Roger Walters raves about being bitten.

43:30 - Interview - Dr Sue Roberts

This week we speak to Dr Sue Roberts about the balance between good health, sensible training and doing too much.

1:20:45 - Winner of the week

Nominated by Jeanette Dumbrell this weeks winner of the week is the very fast running Claire Hallissey. 

01:23:03 - Close

- New Marathon Talk technical training tee and racing vest available very soon with the amazing support of adidas and Sweatshop.

- Get stuck in to our new website

Martin isdoing another off road run, going to Frankfurt.

Tom is… (Grand) Dad’s arriving this evening, Sewerby parkrun on Friday, relay running on Saturday

- Rememer to sign up for all the great benefits of being a part of the Marathon Talk community

Thanks for listening and supporting the show.

Run well.

Martin & Tom.

 


  1. Keith Rossiter
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    Good for Adidas (I'm a fan anyway) and great support. VLM competiton is a great opportunity but those few lucky ones who have a ballot place, where does their opportunity for an Adidas bonus come from??

    26th October 2011 16:27:31
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  2. Jocelyn Payne
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    Argh, I forgot to upload my Amsterdam time onto the actual event page... would have been #1 woman! oh well... my bad!

    26th October 2011 20:03:07
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  3. David Blackman
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    Loved the Sue Roberts interview, lots of common sense in there and some really great daily checks and ways to spot overtraining. I'm not a fan of measuring HR in training (prefer to run how I feel) but this interview has prompted me to get better at doing it in bed in the morning. Measuring HRM that is.

    And I'm not MV80!! (although I feel like it sometimes!)

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    Martin Yelling Says:

    Just a little artistic license Dave:-)

    27th October 2011 10:19:42
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  4. Jon Elliott
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    Just listening to Sue Roberts. After suffering from overtraining syndrome last year, her advice should be heeded. I was ill for most of last winter so had no base training. It took 5 months for me to get back to being able to run again. I went and got metabolic assessments done before I commenced again. This year has seen me go faster than ever. I regulariy check HR, and now am more aware of back off when I'm feeling under the weather. Knowledge is power.

    27th October 2011 13:50:26
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  5. Jane Craigie-payne
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    Ooh! My first ever mention - 4th fastest female marathon time. I feel stupidly proud! lol

    Avatar 31st October 2011 13:57:22    
    Jan Korsholm Says:

    Know the feeling. 5th fastet male time. Could not wait to hear the 5 times and what a joy to hear my name. Motivated to train hard so I can get a mention after my next marathon.

    27th October 2011 22:33:42
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  6. David Rowe
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    Here's a short report by multiple world record holder and 3:15 marathon runner (for an 80 year old!) Ed Whitlock. It was in the e-newsletter of our running club - which Ed is a member of...

    "The day before the race we had gale force winds which would have been very
    difficult to deal with for all concerned. The morning of the race things had
    died down to a stiff breeze. I was still concerned about the conditions and
    settled on 3:20 as an objective. As things turned out the wind was not as
    bad as I expected. The first 2 to 3k were with the wind and I was faster
    than that pace. As we turned into the wind I started dialling back the pace.
    The organizers had given me an elite start, so the 3:15 pace bunny started
    behind me, and when he and his group passed me at about 7k still running
    into the wind I decided to hang on to them at least until we turned around
    at about 12k. Things seemed to be going OK so I held on with the gradually
    diminishing group until 39k when my knees buckled going up a slight incline.
    Once over that things weren't too bad and I finished quite well. I found it
    somewhat relaxing relying on the pacer and not having to worry about the
    splits. The last 7k were against the wind. I ran 1:37:38 for the first half
    and 1:38:16 for the second with about half of the slowing occurring on the
    39th kilometre. Legs still quite stiff on Wednesday, but otherwise seemingly
    undamaged."

    28th October 2011 16:03:21
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  7. Jane Craigie-payne
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    David - we must be club members :-)

    29th October 2011 13:11:39
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  8. Daniel Weston
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    Dr Sue Roberts’ interview was educational and well worth listening to. Thank you Marathon Talk for another great interview. There was great advice about fatigue from someone with ample experience (as a result of being a GP).

    When Dr Sue Roberts was talking about Elite Athletes limiting factors were mentioned. These included stresses, environments and genetics. The topic of genetics caught my attention. Sue’s view seemed to give too much weight to genetics limiting a runners ability than it actually does.

    I’m probably too much the other way because I don’t like to think of myself as having a genetic limit at all. Matthew Syed’s book, Bonce, talks about how people who believe too much in inherited talent (by genetics) don’t do as well because they have the wrong attitude. E.g. if they are training hard and reach a limit which they believe is their genetic limit then they may think what’s the point in training harder?

    My view is that runners should forget about genetic limits because they’re very unlikely to reach this ceiling. Furthermore I think that running genetics are not as bias as other sports can be. For example: genetically tall people will be better at basketball, petite women: ballet; small people: horse jockeys etc.

    Do you have any thoughts on this?

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    Nathan Warren Says:

    Whilst I do agree that people should be careful not to give up because they think 'I'm not built to be a runner', Matthew Syed's book specifically states that it is skill-based sports which can be mastered if someone puts enough practice in (the estimate is 10,000 hours or three hours a day for 10 years) - this includes golf, table tennis, archery, etc. Running is different because it is not based so much on skill as fitness, endurance, conditioning, etc. Everyone can improve their running if they persist with it but I don't think that if I'd run for three hours a day between the ages of, say, eight and 18 I would now be world class. Motor neurone skills can be honed, improved and mastered if someone is prepared to put the effort in; running cannot, in my opinion.

    30th October 2011 19:45:36
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  9. Kristian Tjemsland
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    You forgot to ask her what she could run a mile in!

    31st October 2011 04:49:56
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  10. Martin Yelling
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    Thanks DW. We are trying to get Matthew on the show! A very interesting topic. KJ - I know! Sorry! MY

    31st October 2011 11:44:08
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